[Perldl] Impact

[Karl Glazebrook]

Hi there

Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?

Has anyone tried a paper count?

Karl

[Piero Ranalli]

Post by Karl Glazebrook
Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?
Has anyone tried a paper count?

Hi

if you mean citations to Glazebrook & Economou 1997, The Perl Journal,
5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of
14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their "Web of
science core collections". All these papers are in astrophysics, which
looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields.
Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one
paper on optics, two in bioinformatics).

Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The
NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of
"pdl.perl.org" in the full text.


I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr
Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed,
so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This
means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can
see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it.
So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the
references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that --
that's how I did.



Piero

[Ingo Schmid]

Hi,
so far I've always cited http://pdl.perl.org, is that wrong?

Ingo

Post by Piero Ranalli

Post by Karl Glazebrook
Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?
Has anyone tried a paper count?

Hi
if you mean citations to Glazebrook & Economou 1997, The Perl Journal,
5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of
14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their "Web of
science core collections". All these papers are in astrophysics, which
looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields.
Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one
paper on optics, two in bioinformatics).
Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The
NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of
"pdl.perl.org" in the full text.
I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr
Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed,
so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This
means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can
see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it.
So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the
references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that --
that's how I did.
Piero
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[Christian Soeller]

Hi both,

Firstly, good idea to look into this, Karl. A search on google scholar with the terms 'perl pdl' produces quite a few more hits, also in journals outside of astro.

It would probably be nice to come up with a few approaches to calculate some metrics from this and similar info. Maybe somebody really clever can come up with a perl/pdl script to automatically 'scrape' the info from the relevant servers?

In any case, a nice compilation of findings would clearly be useful for future reference.

Cheers,
CS

Post by Piero Ranalli

Post by Karl Glazebrook
Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?
Has anyone tried a paper count?

Hi
if you mean citations to Glazebrook & Economou 1997, The Perl Journal,
5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of
14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their "Web of
science core collections". All these papers are in astrophysics, which
looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields.
Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one
paper on optics, two in bioinformatics).
Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The
NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of
"pdl.perl.org (http://pdl.perl.org)" in the full text.
I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr
Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed,
so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This
means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can
see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it.
So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the
references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that --
that's how I did.
Piero
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[Zakariyya Mughal]

Post by Christian Soeller
Hi both,
It would probably be nice to come up with a few approaches to calculate some metrics from this and similar info. Maybe somebody really clever can come up with a perl/pdl script to automatically 'scrape' the info from the relevant servers?

As for scraping, any of these may work:

- <https://metacpan.org/pod/Bib::Tools#add_google_search>,
- <https://code.google.com/p/google-scholar-perl/>,
- or my own <https://github.com/zmughal/p5-Biblio-Document-Fetch>. :-)

It seems the only difference between Bib::Tools and mine is that mine
doesn't try to resolve citations using CrossRef like Bib::Tools does.

Regards,
- Zaki Mughal

Post by Christian Soeller
Cheers,
CS

Post by Piero Ranalli

Post by Karl Glazebrook
Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?
Has anyone tried a paper count?

Hi
if you mean citations to Glazebrook & Economou 1997, The Perl Journal,
5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of
14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their "Web of
science core collections". All these papers are in astrophysics, which
looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields.
Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one
paper on optics, two in bioinformatics).
Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The
NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of
"pdl.perl.org (http://pdl.perl.org)" in the full text.
I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr
Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed,
so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This
means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can
see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it.
So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the
references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that --
that's how I did.
Piero
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[Craig DeForest]

Google Scholar shows well over 100 papers mentioning pdl.perl.org, in astro, Econ, biology, and other fields.

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Post by Piero Ranalli

Post by Karl Glazebrook
Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?
Has anyone tried a paper count?

Hi
if you mean citations to Glazebrook & Economou 1997, The Perl Journal,
5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of
14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their "Web of
science core collections". All these papers are in astrophysics, which
looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields.
Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one
paper on optics, two in bioinformatics).
Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The
NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of
"pdl.perl.org" in the full text.
I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr
Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed,
so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This
means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can
see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it.
So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the
references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that --
that's how I did.
Piero
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[Karl Glazebrook]

That's smart! Thanks Piero

I get 67 hits on full:"perl data language"

I expect the number of papers using it is a lot greater. I myself have probably used it in 50 papers without citing it. Damn!

Karl

Post by Piero Ranalli

Post by Karl Glazebrook
Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL?
Has anyone tried a paper count?

Hi
if you mean citations to Glazebrook & Economou 1997, The Perl Journal,
5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of
14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their "Web of
science core collections". All these papers are in astrophysics, which
looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields.
Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one
paper on optics, two in bioinformatics).
Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The
NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of
"pdl.perl.org" in the full text.
I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr
Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed,
so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This
means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can
see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it.
So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the
references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that --
that's how I did.
Piero